Re: [-empyre-] geography...

[Reiner Strasser <reiner.s@netartefact.de>]

melinda and ....

in my sight the global network ideal is not really dead. I know that it is
especially lively in i.e. south american countries.
(maybe this ideal has lost some impact in the western world because of not
getting enough results in a short amount of time [it is a very slow process]
+ politically changing atmospheres || while the Net is spreading slowlier in
"poorer" countries ....).
As a non native english speaker I sometimes got the feeling that the english
centered Net is ostracizing other countries simply by being in English.

To communicate in non letter languages is difficult. To express in i.e.
colour and form or gesture and sound - but in my sight i.e. painting, music
and dance have become really global.
- can you give the url of the vrml space (when it is still online)?


best wishes

Reiner



> sylvie and empyreans..
> there was something in that "dialogue" thread about the graphic capability
> of the web, and getting away forn the notion of what is real net.art and
> what isn't , and just looking at a lot of what is currently showing .. alot
> of contemporary work is really graphically based eg "netflag" and that genre
> of "code" works,   or flash works, and even say works like young hae chang's
> award winning flash work -  tho it is text, and just text with versions in
> both korean and english, it is also very graphiclly based.. ie its nice for
> me to watch the rhythms of the screen changes and the form of the characters
> in the korean version of it even if i don't get the jokes "reading" it.
> 
> although i must confess to generally being really english centerd..i rarely
> get emails and urls except from maybe central europe about works in other
> languages.. and i am sure there are some fabulous japanese language sites,
> and spanish and portugese ..especially from south american countries. im
> sure there is some wild stuff happening in russia  and india and china as
> well.. i don't look at any french canadian  web sites either ..(sylvie could
> you give us the urls of some from quebec?)
> and if the global network ideal is dead, then  is net.art reflecting this
> or contributing to it ..??  in the last few yeras i have been trying  to
> make a multi user VRML space where people could communicate with just sound
> and gesture rather than text, to try and eliminate langauge barriers -but
> have a text interface in there as well.. and i still notice that users in
> the space still do the "where are you (geographically)" "what time is it"
> questions..rather than making sounds and gestures.. the text - to my
> dismay - is more often valued over the playful options...
> 
> im wondering what this all means in terms of end-users interacting with
> works.. maybe its hard coded human behaviour to like and reinforce
> difference and distance?  and is this a reflected by global tendancy to wage
> war on people who speak different languages, and at the other end of the
> spectrum , by the art market that supports the discrete, exotic, the unique,
> the different, but not the multiple, distributed, accessable, inclusive
> experience.
> 
> melinda